Showing posts with label Spider-man. Show all posts
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Thursday 11 January 2024

Spider-Symmetry: Harry and Normie Osborn

 

Occasionally I like to highlight the visual or narrative symmetry between the Spider-Man and Spider-Girl comics. Today I wanted to demonstrate another fine example of artist Ron Frenz showering adoration upon one of the comic industry’s most underappreciated artists, Sal Buscema.

 


Presented for your consideration, Spectacular Spider-Man #189, where a deranged Harry Osborn is arrested and being loaded into the back of a van before threatening to reveal Spider-Man’s secret identity.

 


Now, compare this with the ending of What If #105 wherein Normie Osborn is being loaded into the back of a van and graces everyone with his own rendition of the 1967 Spider-Man theme song, complete with altered lyrics tailored to Spider-Girl.


 

Until I figure out the full lyrics and find footage of this lost cartoon, I remain

 

frogoat

Wednesday 10 January 2024

Julia Carpenter in the MC2

 

With Sony Pictures Madame Web movie right around the corner, now is a good time to take a look at one of the film’s main cast of characters as she appears in our favourite comic imprint. Today, we will cover Spider-Woman aka Julia Carpenter in the MC2.

 



First appearing in 1984's Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars #6 in shadow and making her first full debut in Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars #7Julia Carpenter was introduced as the second Spider-Woman, and the inspiration for Spider-Man’s own black-suit design, though her origin would remain a mystery for quite some time. 

 



Born Julia Cornwall in Los Angeles, California to Elizabeth and Walter Cornwall Julia befriended fellow college student (and later federal agent) Valerie Cooper before she met, fell in love with married Larry CarpenterJulia dropped out of college, working to support Larry as he studied for a career in public relations (Avengers West Coast #84). 

 

After graduating college, Larry Carpenter (who first appeared in Iron Man #214) often focused his time and attention on his work and extra-marital affairs, rather than Julia despite the two having a young daughter- Rachel Carpenter-together. Rachel Carpenter (who also made her debut in Iron Man #214) was five years old when Julia divorced Larry and the courts granted custody of Rachel to Julia. Now a single mother struggling to make ends meet, Julia moved Julia to Denver, Colorado


 

Unbeknownst to Julia, a seemingly chance meeting with Val Cooper would lead to Julia gaining her spider-powers. Val hired Julia as a test subject for a secret government project, telling Julia it was for exercise research when the experiments were to create government-controlled super humans for the Commission of Superhuman Activities (CSA). After being subjected to weeks of intense athletic training, Julia was secretly injected with a large dose of a special spider-serum. While Dr Napier claimed this was an accident, the researchers had been dosing Julia with higher and higher amounts over time. The 'accident' yielded the desired results and Julia quickly discovered she had developed her own unique set of spider-powers including the ability to generate psionic 'webbing' (Avengers West Coast #84).

 



Despite appearances, Val Cooper had not encountered Julia by mere luck. Julia would learn much later that the story she had believed was fabricated. The CSA's ambition to have government super-agents had led to them hiring lead scientist Dr Carter NapierNapier and his team of scientists had sought out rare plants and spider venoms only found deep in the Peruvian Amazon. The expedition had been led by jungle guides Elizabeth and Walter CornwallJulia's own long-absent parents. It was through this connection that Val Cooper learned of Julia's financial struggles and combined with her prior knowledge of Julia's athletic prowess, found the perfect candidate for the experiments (Spider-Woman Vol.2 #2).

 













After the events of Secret WarsJulia spent time working for the CSA, being assigned to work alongside Freedom Force in battling the X-Men and later capturing the Avengers. Feeling it was not right, Julia freed the Avengers and was declared a fugitive by (Uncanny X-Men #206X-Factor #8-9Avengers Annual #15). With Julia absent for long periods of time, Larry successfully sued for custody of Rachel. Aided by Iron ManJulia turned herself in to the CSA, working as an undercover agent under the orders of Mike Clemson, a man who was openly hostile toward her. Meanwhile, the general public continued to believe she was a wanted criminal (Iron Man #214).

 


Julia encountered the Avengers in California after moving there to be close to her daughter again. After aiding the team in their battle with the Pacific OverlordsJulia joined the West Coast Avengers team, finally allowing Julia to officially clear her name and quit the CSA. Around this time, Julia revealed her superhero identity to Rachel. Julia would serve with the Avengers West Coast branch until the team was disbanded. (Avengers West Coast #70-102). 

  

When the West Coast branch of the Avengers disbanded, Julia joined the newly formed Force Works alongside with several other former-West Coast team members. Rachel moved into the teams headquarters- The Works- alongside her mother. However, in the wake of the events of The Crossing, the Force Works team disbanded (Force Works #1-22). After this, Julia next appears in a back up story in Sensational Spider-Man Annual '96, which takes place after the events of Onslaught. In this adventure, Julia is operating solo in Los Angeles when she encounters the animated Spider-Woman costume of Jessica Drew. It leads her into an encounter with Shadowoman and Lindsey McCabe where they save Jessica Drew from the other dimensional Void-Eater. The story concludes by implying Jessica may want her old super hero moniker back, and an editorial box tells readers to look for a follow up story in the pages of Spider-Man Team-Up. Sadly, this would never come to pass as this story was writer Mark Gruenwald's final published work before his death. 

 



Following this, Julia Carpenter next shows up post-Heroes Return for cameo appearances in Avengers Vol. 3 #1-4 and Captain America Vol. 3 #3. As I've mentioned in prior posts, it's unclear what parts of this era occurred or did not occur in the history of the MC2. Around this time in the Spider-Man books, Doctor OctopusSpider-Woman (Charlotte Witter) was taking the powers of the various other Spider-Women. However, things appear to have played out differently in the MC2, as this is where events had already begun to diverge.

 

Julia Carpenter makes her MC2 debut in Spider-Girl #37 where she seeks out Peter Parker for assistance finding the original Spider-Man's family so she can bring in Jessica Drew's son, Gerry Drew aka the new Spider-Man before Gerry comes to harm as a result of his rare blood disease.

 


In Spider-Girl #39Julia mentions that Jessica, herself, Mattie Franklin, and Cassandra Webb aka Madame Web had all previously used Peter to get messages to Spider-ManJulia also appears to have detailed knowledge of Jessica and Gerry's history, implying the two Spider-Women have maintained contact until recently.

 


 As with the previous issue, the connection between the three Spider-Women is reinforced with a flashback in Spider-Girl #40 showing Julia in her Spider-Woman costume meeting up with a costumed Mattie Franklin and a plain clothed Jessica Drew. It’s notable that Jessica is in plain clothes and apparently depowered while Julia seems to retain her abilities, judging by her costumed appearance.

 


Julia and Peter track down Jessica at her home and confront her, with Jessica telling the two that Gerry won't stop his reckless behaviour as superhero without a good reason. Peter approaches Gerry in costume as Spider-Man and convinces him to retire until he can get treatment from Reed RichardsJulia notes that despite being believed dead, the original Spider-Man returned when needed (Spider-Girl #42-43). 

 




Julia’s appearances in the MC2 raise a lot of unanswered questions, such as whether she retained her spider-powers (it seems likely, though it’s never stated) and we get no mention of her own daughter Rachel who would surely be an adult by this point. Maybe someday we’ll learn more.

 

Until I discover Dr Napier was in the Amazon with my parents researching rare plants and spiders, right before they… didn’t die, I remain

 

frogoat

 

 

Friday 29 December 2023

MC2 in Other Media 2023

 For the end of the year, I have put together a video to show off the various appearances of MC2 characters in other media throughout 2023.







In order of their appearance, they are as follows:


Aftershock

Voiced by Alison Brie

Marvel's Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur

'Moon Girl Landing'

February 10, 2023


Cassie Lang

Portrayed by Kathryn Newton

Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania

February 17, 2023


May 'Mayday' Parker

Voiced by Michelle Ruff

Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse

June 2, 2023


Spider-Girl

Marvel's Spider-Man 2

October 20, 2023


It is my hope that the New Year will bring more appearances by MC2 characters in other media, or at the very least some more comic book appearances! Happy New Year everyone!


Until I figure out how to video edit in a timely manner, I remain


frogoat

Sunday 17 December 2023

Harry Osborn in the MC2

 

*This post was intended to be uploaded in time for Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 but was delayed several times for various reasons. Hopefully you still get something out of it.*

 


With Sony and Insomniac Games’ release of Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 on Playstation 5, I thought I might take the opportunity to delve into a related character who appears in the video game; today I want to look at Harry Osborn in the MC2 and his impact on his son.

 


First, some basic information: Harry Osborn first appeared in Amazing Spider-Man #31 alongside his friend and fellow former Standard High student Gwen Stacy, who are both unintentionally ignored by Peter Parker. Later, Peter would befriend Harry and date Gwen. How things change!

 


 


Norman Osborn first appeared in Amazing Spider-Man #14 as the villain the Green Goblin, in his civilian identity (albeit unidentified) in Amazing Spider-Man #23 before being named and revealed as Harry’s father in Amazing Spider-Man #37. Norman’s apparent death in Amazing Spider-Man #122 is the catalyst for a great many things, prominent among them is Harry’s discovery of his father’s villainous alter ego and later, the revelation that Peter was Spider-Man (Amazing Spider-Man #135). This would lead Harry to assume the identity of the Green Goblin himself, beginning in Amazing Spider-Man #136-#137.

 


 


Following this, Harry would be institutionalised and placed under the care of psychiatrist Dr. Bart Hamilton, who hypnotised Harry and learned all about the Green Goblin before assuming the identity for himself only to die shortly afterwards in an explosion. As a result of Hamilton’s treatment, Harry would lose his memory of Spider-Man’s secret identity (Amazing Spider-Man #151, #167, #177-#180).

 











Resuming a relatively normal existence, Harry marries Elizabeth ‘Liz’ Allan off-panel, as revealed in Peter Parker, the Spectacular Spider-Man (vol. 1) #63. Harry and Liz eventually have a baby together in Amazing Spider-Man #263 whom they name ‘Norman Harry Osborn’ in Amazing Spider-Man #265. If you are reading this post you almost certainly know the significant role ‘Normie’ plays in the MC2.

 





Suffering a mental breakdown partly due to the events of Inferno and partly as a result of moving into his old family home, Harry’s repressed memories of his father’s alter ego and his own stint as the Green Goblin return and he reassumes the identity of the Green Goblin to battle the Hobgoblin (Jason Macendale) when he threatens Liz and Normie (Spectacular Spider-Man (vol. 1) #146, Web of Spider-Man #47, Amazing Spider-Man #312).

 










Things come to a head after a brief and misguided attempt at heroism as the Green Goblin is ended by Spider-Man, with Harry finally remembering his friend Peter Parker is Spider-Man (Web of Spider-Man #67). Hearing voices, Harry soon begins seeing visions of his father, Norman Osborn, scolding him for how he is raising Normie, which are countered by visions of Peter as Spider-Man until Harry’s psyche sides with his father, and he launches an attack on Spider-Man (Spectacular Spider-Man #177-#180).

 






















After inducing a hallucinogenic and traumatic trip caused by one of Harry’s pumpkin bombs and an encounter with Vermin, Spider-Man has a revelation and offers up his own life to Harry, causing the latter to flee, conflicted, but threatens he will reveal Peter’s secret identity (Spectacular Spider-Man #181-#184).




 









After disappearing for a time, Harry returns and begins playing mind games with Peter, having exposed himself to a version of the Green Goblin Formula (Spectacular Spider-Man #188). As the Green Goblin, Harry kidnaps Liz, Liz’s step-brother Mark Raxton and Normie and forces them all to sit down for a family dinner but is defeated by Spider-Man and taken by the authorities in a series of very notable panels (Spectacular Spider-Man #189).


 














In Spectacular Spider-Man #190, Harry is undergoing sessions with Dr. Ashley Kafka but these do not appear to be going well. The Rhino aka Alexsei Sytsevitch is hired by Harry to attack Peter Parker in an assault on his friend’s personal life, a move which will become his trademark. Enraged, Peter changes into Spider-Man and brutally beats the Rhino. Transferred to the Vault prison, Harry learns from a visiting Liz that the charges against him are likely to be dropped as much of the evidence relates to his father, Norman’s actions as the Green Goblin instead. Evidently unwell because of the Goblin Formula, Harry breaks free of his restraints and tells Liz not to let Normie become weak. After being confined, Harry smiles about the news of Peter’s parents apparent return from the dead, something we’ll later learn was another of Harry’s long game manipulations (Amazing Spider-Man #369)

 














Peter gets a big surprise when he returns home to find Harry has been released and the charges against him dropped. The shock encounter and lingering threat causes a fight between Peter and Mary Jane which ends with Mary Jane storming out only to be captured by Harry the Green Goblin (Spectacular Spider-Man #199).


 

 




Taken to the bridge where Gwen Stacy was killed by Norman Osborn, Harry promises Mary Jane she has nothing to fear from the Green Goblin regardless of what happens between him and Peter. He brings Mary Jane back home and after a tense confrontation with Peter, returns to his own home downstairs where he flies into a rage, threatening Liz when she tries to convince him to seek help (Spectacular Spider-Man #200).

 









Over the following weeks, dressed as the Green Goblin, Harry begins following Peter as a form of intimidation. He approaches J Jonah Jameson and tells him he is establishing the Norman Osborn Foundation to do charitable work and restore his father’s name in the process. In truth, Harry plans to detonate explosives at the Foundation’s opening gala and level a city block. Mary Jane’s attempts to reach both Liz who is in complete denial and Harry fail and the Green Goblin and Spider-Man engage in a brutal battle. Harry reveals the Goblin Forumla he took was different from his father’s, one that hadn’t been finished when Norman died (Spectacular Spider-Man #200).

 











Drugging Spider-Man, Harry begins the countdown with the intent of killing them both in the explosion, believing the world and their loved ones will better off without them. Suddenly realizing Mary Jane and Normie are still in the building and with Spider-Man barely able to move, Harry races to save them. Returning to rescue his best friend, Harry manages to get Peter out moments before the whole building is destroyed only to collapse to the ground. Realizing the experimental Goblin Formula was the cause, Harry dies soon after, holding Peter’s hand (Spectacular Spider-Man #200).

 

Harry’s mental illness and death would go on to leave a deep scar on the psyche of young Normie Osborn, with his hatred for Spider-Man manifesting in his violent play with Spider-Man toys and years later when he assumed the identity of the Green Goblin himself to seek revenge beginning with What If #105, in which he is defeated by May ‘Mayday’ Parker aka Spider-Girl.



 





Undergoing psychological treatment with Dr Fowkes, Normie recounts a reoccurring dream resembling a fairy tale. In the dream he envisions his grandfather Norman as a kind and generous king killed by the monstrous Spider-Man and his father Harry as the son of the king who is also killed before the kings return and eventual final death. Normie says he sees himself as the kings grandson, destined to triumph over ‘evil’. However, this retelling of the same dream is part of a plan to lure the guards into a false sense of security and aid his escape with a fail-safe switch he’d built to call his Goblin Glider. This ‘dream’ suggests Normie was, in some twisted sense, aware of his family’s dark history even if his child-like tale portrayed his father and grandfather as the heroes (Spider-Girl #19).


 

 

Undergoing new psychological treatment under a Dr Lorch, Normie admits he feels happiness was never an option for him and that it was always assumed he’d follow after his father and grandfather as a costumed criminal and eventually die as they did. Seemingly accepting the opportunity to change his perceived destiny and live a long and fulfilled life, Normie instead ties up his doctor and again escapes, intending to end the Spider-Goblin War with the death of himself or Spider-Girl (Spider-Girl #26).

 



Having easily captured the recently de-powered Mayday, Normie taunts and provokes her before brandishing a knife. Normie argues that the two of them must battle until one of them dies but May challenges this by reminding him of how their father’s were friends until the end. May tells Normie she wont give up on him and that she would never kill him, to which Normie declares he wishes she had if only to spare them the grief. May realizes that Normie was hoping she’d break free and kill him in the struggle over the knife because he too can’t bring himself to kill her either. Normie cuts Mayday free and the two embrace, having done what their parents couldn’t and ended the war between their families without bloodshed (Spider-Girl #27).



 









Having been shot four times by the super-criminal assassin Mr Nobody, Normie lay in a coma on the verge of death. A vision of his grandfather Norman appeared before him and violently confronted him about his betrayal, telling Normie he’d failed just like his father. Just then a vision of Harry steps between them to protect his son but soon proves no match for Norman who berates him by telling him his death was a result of choosing Peter and Mary Jane over his father. Fortunately, the spirit of Liz, Normie’s mother drives Norman away and gives her son the choice to keep fighting or pass on. Normie chooses life (Spider-Girl #63).






 

Harry Osborn may have died while his son Normie was young but his impact lingers in varied ways, both for better or for ill in the form of the shadow of the Green Goblin. His tortured life and upbringing led him down a dark path but he still managed to die a good man. These effects are seen through Normie’s own struggle with mental illness, grief and the weight of his family’s legacy. A huge thanks to arias-98105 and The Green Goblin’s Hideout fansite.

 

Until I get a post out on time, I remain

 

frogoat