The Fisk Family Tree

 

I said back when I wrote about The Kingpin in the MC2 that I should have made the post when it was most relevant. This time, I’m going to try and seize the recent resurgence in popularity of Wilson Fisk thanks to his appearance in the Hawkeye series on Disney+ by bringing back my series of MC2 Family Trees. Here is the Fisk Family Tree.

 

Wilson Fisk aka the Kingpin of Crime first appeared in Amazing Spider-Man #50 in 1967 but we didn’t learn of his origins until far later. In 1993’s flashback series Daredevil: The Man Without Fear #3 we find Wilson Fisk working for the Maggia Crime Family boss Don Rigoletto. We witness the moment Fisk takes control of the various gang leaders not only here but with added context in the pages of Amazing Spider-Man #-1 written by the legendary Tom Defalco in 1997. Needless to say, from here on out Wilson would be known as the Kingpin of Crime, a title he would hold until his death in the MC2 as seen in Spider-Girl #63-64

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Vanessa Fisk is first mentioned in Amazing Spider-Man #69 and makes an obscured cameo in Amazing Spider-Man #70 before her proper first full appearance in Amazing Spider-Man #83. While we don’t know a great deal about Vanessa, we get some details in the Marvel Graphic Novel: Daredevil Love and War written by Frank Miller. There Wilson recounts that Vanessa was brought to him at age 15 as an amnesiac by his ‘band of petty thieves’ as chattel twenty years prior. This would make Vanessa around 35 years old during the events of that story.

 

Richard Fisk made his debut in the pages of Amazing Spider-Man #83 under the mask of The Kingpin’s rival The Schemer, only revealing his true face in Amazing Spider-Man #85. Richard would go on to use many aliases through the years, including The Supreme Hydra, The Rose and The Blood Rose. In Web of Spider-Man #86 we learn that when he was a child, Vanessa would shield him from the life of his criminal father. Richard watched Vanessa’s health deteriorating through the years with the strain of her relationship to Wilson until he was sent away to school in Europe. While it appears Richard first learned of his father’s criminal empire when The Kingpin was outed in the news, this issue seems to suggest Richard may have known at some capacity and was simply shamed when it was made public. Either way, Richard faked his death and assumed the identity of The Schemer to oppose his father while posing as a crime lord. It stands to reason that Richard couldn’t have been more than 18 or 19 years of age given that his parents only met 20 years prior.

It’s worth noting the MC2’s Kingpin’s origins are briefly depicted during his dying vision on the operating table in Spider-Girl #63. Here learn he was an overweight young man from a poor family and no one ever liked him until he grew tired of being beaten and began to lift weights and study martial arts, becoming an intimidating figure. We also see the aforementioned death of Rigoletto at Fisk’s hands. It’s also during Wilson’s vision that he is confronted by his son and wife and we learn that they are both already dead. The MC2 diverges from the Main Marvel Universe prior to Richard’s death in 2002’s Daredevil (Vol.2) #31 but it’s entirely possible events unfolded in a similar way. Additionally, Vanessa didn’t even die in the Main Marvel Universe until years after this issue was published in Daredevil (Vol. 2) #92-#93, meaning the MC2 predicted her demise.

 

It seems obvious that the life of a crime boss is destined to leave a man lonely and eventually end in tragedy for the whole family. That’s a wrap on this shorter MC2 Family Tree. I hope you enjoyed it. Let me know if you want me to cover another family in the near future.

 

Until I fake my own death in Switzerland only to return wearing an old man mask, I remain

 

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MC2 in the TASM-Verse

 

Following on from the recent Spider-Man: No Way Home villain posts, my post about the various Sam Raimi Spider-Man movie trilogy references, easter eggs and connections in the MC2 got some nice responses so I figured I should attempt a modest sequel of sorts. This one detailing the (admittedly far fewer) connections between the MC2 comics and the Marc Webb directed The Amazing Spider-Man duology of films. Since both Amazing films were released after the MC2’s published history ended, the references and connections (intentional or otherwise) will obviously only flow in one direction. Let’s look at the MC2 in the TASM-Verse.

 

 

This first one is probably just an unintentional similarity but one I can’t get away from. Not only does Andrew Garfield’s Peter Parker have amazing hair, when he tries on his father’s old glasses early in the first film, he resembles May ‘Mayday’ Parker in her own debut appearance in What If #105.

 

 

Ever since the first time I watched The Amazing Spider-Man in the cinema I’ve felt the scene where a newly empowered Peter takes a basketball from Flash Thompson and slam dunks it through the hoop and destroys the backboard looked awful familiar. This can only be swiped from the aforementioned debut of Spider-Girl in What If #105 where the emergence of Mayday’s powers is heralded by her leaping high into the air during a basketball game and performing a slam dunk which shatters the backboard. Even if this was not an intended reference, it’s an extremely unusual coincidence as Peter was notoriously unathletic and isn’t associated with basketball whereas Mayday is by contrast an athletic high school basketball star well before her powers developed.

 

Jumping from the films to the games now, The Amazing Spider-Man 2 game features a very small cameo by Spider-Girl in the form of a comic glimpsed on the shelf of a comic shop you can visit in-game. I included this cameo appearance in my updated Evolution of Spider-Girl in Video Games YouTube video. The cover depicted in the game is Spider-Girl #39. Just a nice little easter egg inclusion.

 

 

That might be it, if I’ve missed anything please let me know! Hopefully you’ve seen how much crossover and recycled concepts different adaptions utilize from the MC2 Universe. Not sure if I should try and turn out more of these sorts of posts. Let me know what you think!

 

Until I realize far too late that I’ve missed a super obvious reference or connection, I remain

 

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Raimi-Verse References in the MC2

 

Following on from the recent Spider-Man: No Way Home villain posts, for no specific reason today’s post will be about the various Sam Raimi Spider-Man movie trilogy references, easter eggs and connections in the MC2, including those I consider too coincidental not to mention. For short, here’s Raimi-Verse References in the MC2.

 

First up, here’s one I’ve always thought was ahead of it’s time and almost certainly unintentional. In Spider-Girl #5 we first meet the MC2’s Venom symbiote. When the symbiote bonds to it’s former original host Peter Parker we get a variation on both the Spider-Man and Venom’s costumes combined dubbed ‘Spider-Venom’. Now, to me this looks way too similar to Spider-Man 3’s Venom costume design for it *not* to be an inspiration. Of course, it’s more than likely a huge coincidence but it’s amusing that this comic was published in 1999, a whole seven years before the film was released. On an unrelated note, as far as I’m aware this may also be the first example of the symbiote replacing a host’s lost limb using it’s own bio-mass over a decade before ‘Agent Venom’ was a concept.

 

When a mysterious new Spider-Man first showed up at the Daily Bugle in Spider-Girl #32, he was rocking a new costume design which included classic eye-pieces and a red and black colour scheme. Additionally, the stylized spider emblem on both the front and back of the costume bore a very familiar design. While the front is a larger, modified version of Peter Parker’s own, the back with the red colour is remarkable for it’s strikingly similarity to the one first seen on screen a year later in the first Spider-Man movie.

 

Another fun detail -again more than likely unintentional- is the fact that this new Spider-Man (actually Gerry Drew, the son of the original Spider-Woman) is capable of producing organic webbing much like the Raimi-Verse’s version of Peter Parker (Spider-Girl #37). Meanwhile Peter’s ability to produce organic webbing wouldn’t be introduced in the Main Marvel Universe until 2004’s Spectacular Spider-Man (Vol. 2) #20 in what was most likely an attempt at synergy between the comics and films.

 

This next one is probably my personal favourite. While attending an engagement party for Normie Osborn and Brenda Drago, Mary Jane points out to Peter a fellow partygoer’s uncanny resemblance to someone he should know all too well. Needless to say, Peter doesn’t see the resemblance and instead thinks he looks like Tobey Maguire (Spider-Girl #82). Of course, the man MJ points out is Reilly Tyne aka Darkdevil aka the son of Ben Reilly aka the clone brother of Peter Parker himself which makes this joke all the more amusing.

 

Okay, this one was so obvious I really have no idea how I nearly missed it when compiling this post! After hanging up her webs as Spider-Girl months prior, May ‘Mayday’ Parker suddenly finds herself in need of make-shift disguise. Thus, the short-lived adventures of the Red Hoodie Girl begin (Spider-Girl #1-#2, Avengers Next #1). Obviously, this look will seem very familiar to anyone who’s watched the original Spider-Man movie as it’s Peter’s ‘Human Spider’ wrestling costume.  

Calling back to the concept of producing organic webs, Peter’s second child, Benjy is shown to have developed just that ability, first in Amazing Spider-Girl #9 and later in Amazing Spider-Girl #30 when the infant manages to save himself and his mother from a deadly fall at the hands of a returned Norman Osborn. This is nicely foreshadowed in a scene where Peter and Mayday discuss organic webbing while producing a fresh batch of web-fluid together in Amazing Spider-Girl #20).

 

There’s also a nice little Raimi-Verse Spider-Man costume reference on the cover of Amazing Spider-Girl #11 featuring Peter Parker strung-up by Carnage’s tendrils, his Spider-Man costume adorned with the spider-design of his film counterpart.

 

That’s all I have for now, if you think I’ve forgotten or overlooked a reference to Sam Raimi trilogy, let me know! I thought this would be a nice little bit of fun to close things out for now.

 

Until I learn they’ve brought Tobey’s Spider-Man back… with a daughter in tow, I remain

 

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Norman Osborn in the MC2

With Spider-Man: No Way Home on everyone’s mind, I figured now is a great time to cover some of the MC2 counterparts of the villains confirmed to appear in the film. For what I believe is the last entry in this series, we are taking a look at Norman Osborn aka The Green Goblin in the MC2. This is gonna be a big one.

 

Norman Osborn first appeared in Amazing Spider-Man #14 and made his MC2 debut in the pages of Spider-Girl’s own first appearance in What If #105 via a flashback to his final battle with Spider-Man. Despite being dead, Norman’s legacy of evil looms large over much of the MC2, extending from his family, his Goblin Cult through to his posthumous machinations.

 

Let’s start with some of the stuff I’ve covered before. Alison Mongrain is hired by Norman Osborn to carry out part of his plan to kidnap the newborn child of Peter and Mary Jane. Disguised as a member of the hospital staff, Alison swapped out baby May with a recent stillborn baby, leaving Mary Jane to believe her baby had died at birth. Shortly afterwards, Alison met with Norman Osborn who paid Alison a ‘sizeable bonus’ to take an ‘expensive vacation’ through Europe with the newborn May (Spider-Girl #48, Amazing Spider-Girl #25).

 

Immediately afterwards chronologically is a flashback to the conclusion of the Clone Saga, specifically Peter Parker: Spider-Man #75 where we see Ben Reilly impaled by Norman’s Goblin Glider (Spider-Girl #44).

 

The Brotherhood of Scriers arrive to collect the infant May for Norman Osborn. Alison asks if she can accompany them as she has grown attached to the child, but the Scriers remind her not to question Mr. Osborn. The Scriers leave Mongrain with Norman’s compliments and her ‘final payment’ which turns out to be counterfeit bills and knockout gas. Kaine, being familiar with Osborn and the Scriers methods, rescued Mongrain just as the yacht exploded, hoping to learn what role she had played for Norman Osborn. Upon learning that Alison had kidnapped May and helped convince Peter and Mary Jane she was dead, Kaine leaves Mongrain floundering in the bay with no care whether she lived or died (Spider-Girl #49).

 

Meanwhile, terrible months have passed by for Peter and Mary Jane until Mary Jane receives a phone call from the man called Kaine. Having located Mongrain’s yacht, Kaine begins by telling Mary Jane ‘Your baby’s alive!’ and then goes on to provide a longer explanation, but insists that Mary Jane not tell Peter until the child is safe in her arms. Mary Jane hated keeping secrets from Peter but did not wish for Peter to endanger their baby’s life by confronting Norman Osborn (Spider-Girl #48).

 

Next up we have a flashback to the events of ‘Goblin at the Gate’ story published in Spectacular Spider-Man #259-#261, wherein Norman came into conflict with Roderick Kingsley aka The Hobgoblin. This actually provides some nice context clues regarding what parts of the late-90’s Spider-Man comics we can confirm as having occurred in the History of the MC2, but my placement of this event is by no means definitive.

 

Shortly after this, we get a glimpse of a Scrier handing over baby May to Norman Osborn. Norman cloned the baby and ‘genetically tinkered’ with both to ensure they would eventually manifest spider-powers. Later, Norman placed one of the babies (May) into the care of his good friend Philippe DeJunae. Retaining the other baby (later known as April) himself, Norman ‘added a few more enhancements’ including using cells from Venom aka Eddie Brock’s alien symbiote which transformed the other infant into a unique hybrid. Also around this time, Norman also distilled all his thoughts, dreams and desires, his entire essence into his ‘brain-enhancer’ as part of his unfinished plan to make Peter his successor (Amazing Spider-Girl #29).

 

 Kaine’s months-long mission across the globe brings him into conflict with the Brotherhood of Scriers. After defeating the group of Scriers, Kaine makes short work of their leader before taking possession of baby May from Monsieur Philippe DeJunae. Unbeknownst to Kaine, Norman had orchestrated the encounter to ensure Kaine would return May to her parents and allow him to continue his Project: Changeling experiments with the second baby, which Osborn intended to put into effect within a year or two if his scheme proceeded as planned (Amazing Spider-Girl #25).

 

Kaine returns May to Mary Jane and assures her there are tests she can perform to confirm she’s not being tricked. Kaine states he is doing this as part of the debt he owes to Ben Reilly, indicating his intention to punish the man responsible: Norman Osborn. Kaine’s revenge ultimately does not come to pass (Spider-Girl #48-#49).

 

Norman seemingly splits his time between New York and Europe throughout all this, at least initially, as evidenced by his work on Project: Changeling in the Swiss Alps and his conflict with the Hobgoblin in New York, to name a few examples. Additionally, after their baby daughter May is returned, Peter and Mary Jane make no mention of Norman and his machinations in the Mr. and Mrs. Spider-Man stories (Amazing Spider-Man #1-#4). This may indicate that Osborn had left New York by this point, giving the Parkers a time of relative peace while he put his plans into action. This in turn perhaps better explains Norman’s movements: He was in New York until he had arranged for Kaine to retrieve May and moved to Europe while focused on Project: Changeling.

It’s unclear exactly how much time passes but at some point, Osborn returns to New York and recruits Mattie Franklin, Greg Herd, Cassandra Webb (aka Madame Web) and Morris Maxwell as willingly participants in the Gathering of Five ritual. As Spider-Man, Peter interrupts Norman Osborn’s Gathering of Five ritual and the pair have their final battle in which Peter loses his leg and Norman loses his life when the latter detonates a webbed pumpkin bomb in his hand. Deciding he has more important responsibilities as a father, Peter retires as Spider-Man (What If #105, Spider-Girl #7, Spider-Girl #49).

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While this would usually be the end for anyone else, Norman’s brain-waves survived within his ‘brain-enhancer’ device until Rene DeSantos dispatched Fury, the Goblin Queen to capture Peter Parker. Norman Osborn’s brain-waves were transferred into Peter’s body and the original Green Goblin was reborn once more. Norman revealed his ultimate goal when he used the hybrid symbiote-clone of May to combine with himself, becoming the ‘Goblin God’. Unfortunately for him, Spider-Girl also joined in this merging and in a combined effort, managed to defeat and drive Osborn from Peter’s body, seemingly ending his legacy for good (Amazing Spider-Girl #27-#30).

 

While this post only details the direct appearances of Norman Osborn in the MC2, there is still much left to discuss regarding his influence upon others. But that can wait for another day and another post. For now, let us leave Norman to his fate. If you feel I’ve forgotten anything or perhaps disagree with my placement of events, please reach out and let me know!

Until I find time to get to the cinema to see the Green Goblin’s theatrical return, I remain

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