H.E.R.B.I.E. in the MC2

 

There’s this highly-anticipated movie on the horizon called Fantastic Four: First Steps from Marvel Studios. Perhaps you’ve heard of it? One of the aspects unique to this big-screen theatrical adaption of Marvel’s First Family is the debut of the robotic companion H.E.R.B.I.E. So, let’s look at the history of H.E.R.B.I.E. in the MC2.

 

H.E.R.B.I.E.’s origins lie outside the comics, having been conceived by Stan Lee for 1978’s The New Fantastic Four animated series as a replacement fourth member of the team when the Human Torch was unavailable for use due to a planned but never realized solo film. Fantastic Four co-creator and comic book legend Jack Kirby provided the design for the character.

H.E.R.B.I.E. or ‘Herbie’ was soon after introduced into the comics, making his (‘its’?) first appearance in the pages of Fantastic Four #209 by Marv Wolfman and John Byrne in 1979. Built by Reed Richards (and Master Xar of Xandar), it is revealed the animated series itself exists in-universe as a licenced product and that Reed offered the design to the producers as a replacement for Johnny Storm aka The Human Torch who was out of town that day and unable to sign a contract. According to Richards, H.E.R.B.I.E. stands for Humanoid Experimental Robotic B-Type Integrated Electronics.

Let us hop on over to the MC2 Universe now, where what appears to be a version of H.E.R.B.I.E. makes a cameo appearance as a member of the Fantastic Five in What If #105. But is this really H.E.R.B.I.E.? When we next see the Fantastic Five in Spider-Girl #3, we learn the public story that Reed Richards body was mangled in an accident, leading him to use a robotic form resembling H.E.R.B.I.E. albeit under the codename ‘Big Brain’.

 

We learn more of the mystery surrounding Reed’s accident in Fantastic Five (vol. 1) #1 when the Big Brain robot is destroyed. Soon after we see flashbacks to a battle in the Negative Zone about 5 years beforehand between the Fantastic Four and the villainous Hyperstorm. In the aftermath of this battle, a doomsday device had already begun to tear a hole in the fabric of reality. When Reed Richards was forced to overload the device to stop it, Susan Richards attempted to shield him from the radiation with her force field. Caught in the blast radius, half of Reed's body was left in a melted and deformed state. With the rip in reality still widening, Susan used her powers to hold the tear in place, with the strain leaving her in a coma, forcing the misshapen Reed to place her suspended animation (Fantastic Five (vol. 1) #4).

 

In the wake of the tragedy, The Fantastistation was built in the Negative Zone around the tear in reality. This allowed Reed to keep Sue company while she remained in suspended animation as he worked to slowly repair the hole in the fabric of reality (Fantastic Five Vol. 1 #4, Spider-Girl #87). Over the next few months, while the Fantastic Four remained in seclusion, rumours and speculation spread about the fate of Susan Richards despite the team never releasing details to the public. Reed developed the Big Brain robot to allow him to remain on the team by remotely controlling it from the Negative Zone (Fantastic Five Vol. 1 #1).

 

With the destruction of the previous Big Brain robot in Fantastic Five (vol. 1) #1, Reed begins using a new model with a more humanlike shell, marking the last time we’d see the H.E.R.B.I.E. design utilized in the MC2.

 

Until I decide to put my brain in a robot to spend more time with my wife, I remain

 

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The White Tiger in the MC2

 

With the return of Matt Murdock as Daredevil to the Marvel Cinematic Universe in the revival series Daredevil: Born Again now out on Disney+, it’s the perfect time to look at one of the series new additions, Hector Ayala aka the White Tiger. This is The White Tiger in the MC2.

 

First some of the basics: created by Bill Mantlo and George Perez, Hector Ayala first appeared in Deadly Hands of Kung Fu #19 from 1975, where he becomes the White Tiger. Strap in for some pre-history! First appearing in Deadly Hands of Kung Fu #1, Abraham ‘Abe’ Brown, Lin Sun and Robert Diamond were martial artists trained by Master Kee in San Francisco. When their master is slain, the three set out to avenge him, each wearing one of the three Jade Tiger Amulet pieces (originating from K’un Lun) as the Sons of the Tiger. Eventually, the Sons would part ways and all three of their Amulet pieces were used by Hector Ayala to become the White Tiger, though the trio would occasionally reunite and work alongside the likes of Luke Cage, Iron Fist and the Daughters of the Dragon, Misty Knight and Colleen Wing.

 

Hector becomes a student at Empire State University where he became friends with Peter Parker, secretly the fellow superhero Spider-Man and the two share several adventures together including confronting the villainous Carrion (Peter Parker, the Spectacular Spider-Man #9 - #10). After his identity becomes public, Hector’s family are murdered when he is targeted by the maniacal Gideon Mace, causing him to permanently retire as the White Tiger (#20 - #21, #49 - #52).

 

The White Tiger makes his solitary appearance in the MC2 in a story written by Tom Defalco and pencilled by Ron Lim from J2 #11. When American Dream of the Avengers turns down an invitation to participate in a martial arts contest, J2 aka Zane Yama takes it upon himself to attend in her place. Travelling via mystical amulet to a small island, J2 meets the (apparently) blind Howard the Duck, the self-proclaimed Master of Quack-Fu.

 

From Howard we learn that a few dozen of the world's greatest martial artists were invited to the contest, but only a few of the previous generation's 'old fogies' showed up. Among these ‘old fogies’ is Shang-Chi, sparring with Shen Kuei aka Cat. Other characters glimpsed include Iron Fist, the Sons of the Tiger and Hector Ayala aka the White Tiger.

 Suspecting a trap, Howard had hoped to stack the deck in his favour with American Dream, Stuck with J2 instead, Howard attempts to train the big lug to defend himself but has no success. When J2 reverts back to Zane Yama after his powers temporarily wear off, he encounters Blind Al. Concerned for Zane's well-being in the upcoming contest, Al attempts to get past Weasel to talk to the mystery person who organised the contest: Wade Wilson aka Deadpool.

Having followed Blind Al, Zane learns the contest will have a deadly ending. Encountering Deadpool, Zane turns back into J2 to duke it out with the mercenary. Deadpool reveals he set up the contest to alleviate his boredom. Having overheard his plans, Shang-Chi, Iron Fist, White Tiger, Cat and the Sons of the Tiger proceed to kick Wade’s butt off-panel.

 

While that’s it for White Tiger in the MC2, it does offer a more hopeful fate for Hector when compared to his Main Marvel Universe counterpart. There is the small question of how and when Ayala regained the Jade Tiger Amulet after sending it back to the Sons of the Tiger, but it’s not like that was addressed in the Main Marvel Universe either.

 

Until I have my entire family killed only to have more previously unmentioned family members take up my mantle after I’m killed, I remain

 

frogoat

 

Clones in the MC2 (Part 1)

 

Warning! The following post contains spoilers for comics from fifty to as recently as 15 years ago! It is not often a comic book storyline comes along that is so universally beloved for its consistency, quality, and brevity, but the ‘Clone Saga’…is not one of those storylines either. Though it is often unfairly maligned for bad writing and its excessive, unnaturally protracted length, the Clone Saga also delivered some spectacular stories with top tier writing with memorable, iconic, and beloved characters. Some of these characters heavily influenced the MC2. Which brings me to the subjects of today’s post: Clones in the MC2.

 

But before we start talking about clones, we need to detail where they came from, who created them. Which means we need to talk about Professor Miles Warren, who first appeared teaching biochemistry at Empire State University during Peter Parker’s first day of class in Amazing Spider-Man #31 and should not be confused with Peter Parker’s Midtown High School teacher, Mr Warren who first appeared way back in Amazing Fantasy #15 before being (sur)named in Amazing Spider-Man #8. Many years later, Untold Tales of Spider-Man #25 would establish the two men of science as brothers.

 

Shortly after the death of Gwen Stacy, we are introduced to new villain The Jackal in Amazing Spider-Man #129, who manipulates the vigilante known as The Punisher into targeting Spider-Man. The Jackal’s identity remains a mystery until Amazing Spider-Man #148 where he unmasks himself as Professor Miles Warren. Having orchestrated the apparent ‘return from the dead’ of Gwen Stacy (Amazing Spider-Man #142), Warren reveals that he coveted Gwen and blames Spider-Man for her death. Using cell samples obtained during one of his classes, Professor Warren tricked his lab assistant Anthony Serba into cloning Gwen and Peter. Initially led to believe the cloned cells were taken from a rat, upon realizing the truth Serba was murdered by Miles. Professor Warren disposed of Anthony Serba’s body, convincing himself ‘The Jackal’ had committed the crime. Afterwards, Warren fully developed his Jackal persona, and used hypnosis to ‘re-educate’ and control the newly awakened clone of Gwen. Having been drugged by The Jackal, Spider-Man awakens to find himself facing his ‘Spider-Clone,’ with neither Parker knowing which of them was the original thanks to both sharing the same memories up to that point. Breaking free of her mental conditioning, the clone of Gwen lashes out at Miles for his actions. Warren regained his senses just long enough to apparently die in his own timed explosion, along with the clone of Peter (Amazing Spider-Man #147-#149).

 

The clone of Gwen Stacy would bid Peter farewell and depart, while during a battle with Spencer Smythe’s Spider-Slayer, Peter would have the revelation he genuinely loved Mary Jane Watson. Despite having Dr. Curt Connors run a test to find out if he or his doppelgänger was the original, Peter chose to throw away the results without reading them, certain only the one, true Peter Parker could have felt that way. Worried a corpse bearing his face would be found, Peter disposed of the ‘Spider-Clone’ down a smokestack, believing he would be shortly thereafter incinerated (Amazing Spider-Man #149-#151).

For a while that was the end, until Peter Parker, the Spectacular Spider-Man #25 introduced a ghoulish new villain named Carrion who knew Peter was Spider-Man. Later in Peter Parker, the Spectacular Spider-Man #30 it was revealed that this mysterious figure was a clone of Miles Warren, though writer Bill Mantlo originally intended Carrion to be the ‘Spider-Clone’, badly decayed and clad in the remnants of the Green Goblin’s discarded costume.  It’s revealed that prior to his final confrontation with Spider-Man, Miles had injected a cell sample from himself into a ‘clone casket’ to incubate but the process had gone wrong, leaving the clone’s body within to wither and change but kept alive. Eventually set free, the Miles Warren clone sought revenge on the wall-crawler before finally perishing by the tendrils of his own ‘Spider-Amoeba’ experiment (Peter Parker, the Spectacular Spider-Man #31).

Relentlessly pursued by the High Evolutionary’s Gatherers from her quiet life as a teacher in Lansing, Michigan, the clone of Gwen Stacy makes her way to New York to seek Peter Parker’s help (Spectacular Spider-Man #142-#143). After reaching Peter and realising he is Spider-Man, the Gatherers capture clone Gwen and take her and Spider-Man to the High Evolutionary who runs tests on her. After a clash with Spider-Man and the Young Gods, the High Evolutionary claims that Professor Miles Warren had not, in fact, cloned anyone and proposes that Warren had instead kidnapped a woman of similar age and appearance and via infection with a genetic virus, transformed her on a molecular level to resemble Gwen. The Young God known as Daydreamer used her abilities to apparently revert ‘Gwen’ to her former appearance (Spectacular Spider-Man Annual #8). 

According to Professor Warren’s journal recovered from his old laboratory, the woman Warren apparently abducted was a student named Joyce Delaney. Miles’ former assistant Anthony Serba had also been transformed in the ‘Spider-Clone’ by the Professor’s genetic virus, and a version of this would also later turn Malcolm McBride into a second Carrion, with the implication being that another host body had been altered to become the original Carrion seen in earlier stories (Spectacular Spider-Man #149). These issues served to retcon the Original Clone Saga so that there had never been clones at all, a status quo that would not last for long…

 

That’s where we’ll pause for now before the 90’s Clone Saga kicks off. Special thanks to arias-98105, the Marvel Chronology Project, the now-defunct www.samruby.com (via the Wayback Machine) and the Appendix to the Handbook of the Marvel Universe and the Marvel wiki as well as the Clone Saga Chronicles Podcast which I re-listened to while working on this project.

Until I uncover a genetic virus to rewrite my DNA, I remain

 

frogoat