Showing posts with label OHOTMU. Show all posts
Showing posts with label OHOTMU. Show all posts

Saturday, 27 December 2025

Is Devil Dinosaur in the MC2?

 

Here’s a fun idea I’ve been chewing over for a while now: What characters could exist in the MC2, but where never seen, referenced or perhaps simply weren’t introduced into Marvel Comics until afterwards? I’ve previously produced a post pondering this proposal when I looked at one of the members of the Guardians of the Galaxy to see if Groot could potentially exist in the MC2. For today, I wanted to take a bite out of another character I’m fond of, to see if Devil Dinosaur could exist in the MC2?




First, we must consider some rules, ironic though it may seem for a thought experiment such as this. Usually the MC2’s point of divergence, ‘cut off point’ or ‘branching point,’ is comics published after 1998, when the MC2 imprint began publication. There have been exceptions to this, with some characters who were created after this point appearing in the MC2, such as Anya Corazón aka Araña. With regards to Devil Dinosaur, we have a very different issue to consider.

 



Created by the king of comics himself, Jack Kirby, Devil first appeared in Devil Dinosaur #1 from 1978. Devil is a mutant tyrannosaurus-like theropod dinosaur of the species known as ‘Devil-Beasts’ (Fallen Angels #4). While Mr Kirby’s intent was for Devil and his ‘Small-Folk’ hominid companion Moon Boy to hail from the distant past of the Main Marvel Universe or Earth-616, it’s now firmly established that they originate from an alternate Earth known as ‘Dinosaur World’, which is officially and in-universe designated as Earth-78411 (The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (vol. 1) #3, The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Deluxe Edition #7, The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Update ’89 #2, The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Master Edition #8,Marvel Monsters: From the Files of Ulysses Bloodstone (and the Monster Hunters) and so on). With all that information as support, it’s safe to say Devil Dinosaur is not native to the 616 Universe. So, does that rule him out of the MC2 Universe also?

 



Fortunately, Devil has traversed the multiverse on multiple occasions, in addition to interacting with visitors to his world from the 616 including Godzilla via Doctor Doom’s Time Platform (Godzilla #21-#22). Devil and Moon Boy have also encountered various others including a Skrull (Devil Dinosaur Spring Fling #1),Lockheed (and nearly Shadowcat) of Excalibur (Marvel Comics Present #174), Ghost Rider and Howard the Duck (Ghost Rider (vol. 3) #81-#83), Wolverine, Namor the Sub-Mariner and Ka-Zar (Wolverine: Global Jeopardy #1) and the Fallen Angels group which included members of the New Mutants team (Fallen Angels #4-#8).

 





One significant story came in the pages of Amazing Spider-Man Annual ’98 (aka ‘Annual #31’) written by none other than Spider-Girl co-creator Tom Defalco. This story saw the duo of Moon Boy and Devil Dinosaur stranded once again on Earth-616 and this time under the hypnotic influence of the Ringmaster of Crime. After Spider-Man liberated the pair, he suggested their relocation to the Savage Land where they were settled soon after.

 



Not only is this story written by MC2 alumni Tom Defalco, but it was also published in 1998 making it a likely inclusion into our hypothetical pre-MC2-publication cut off point. So, could Devil Dinosaur reside in the MC2? Yes, it is possible Devil and Moon Boy remain secluded in the remote Savage Land of Antarctica. Considering no published MC2 stories have visited the Savage Land, I’d like to think Devil and his friend are still out there…

 

Until we get Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur Season 3, I remain

 

frogoat

Friday, 4 July 2025

Iron Man's Armory in the MC2: Model 2

 

The release of the Ironheart series on Disney+ has got me in the mood to make another entry in my recent and occasional series (as if I haven’t got enough of those running) looking at the various armours of Tony Stark. This is Iron Man’s Armory in the MC2: Model 2.

 


 For consistency, I’ll be using the designations for the various Iron Man armours provided by to the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe team’s most recent version of the All-New Iron Manual, updated and corrected as it appeared in the Iron Manual trade paperback.

 


Iron Man’s second armour made its debut in the pages of Tales of Suspense #48 wherein Tony Stark builds a brand new, sleeker and lighter suit. This basic outline and the addition of red to the colour scheme (thanks to artist Steve Ditko, no less) would define Iron Man for decades.




Now, in the MC2 we see Tony’s original Model 2 armour in the pages of Spider-Girl #57 in the form of a portrait hung on the walls of Avengers Compound when May ‘Mayday’ Parker aka Spider-Girl comes calling on the Avengers for their assistance.

 


I’ve not spotted any other appearances of this specific suit, but it’s entirely possible I’ve overlooked another sneaky cameo somewhere in the MC2. If you find one, please let me know.

 

Until I decide to throw a little hot-rod red into the mix, I remain

 

frogoat

Tuesday, 10 June 2025

Iron Man's Armory in the MC2: Model 1

 

Today I wanted to launch a new occasional series (as if I haven’t got enough of those running) looking at the various armours of Tony Stark. This is Iron Man’s Armory in the MC2: Model 1.




 For consistency, I’ll be using the designations for the various Iron Man armours provided by to the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe team’s most recent version of the All-New Iron Manual, updated and corrected as part of the Iron Manual trade paperback.




The very first and famously low-tech armour made its debut in the pages of Tales of Suspense #39 wherein Tony Stark built it alongside fellow prisoner Ho Yinsen while held captive as a means to keep him alive and eventually escape. But I’m sure you all already know that. Shortly afterwards, Stark would add a gold finish to better appeal to the public (Tales of Suspense #40).

 



Now, in the MC2 we see Tony’s original Model 1 armour in the pages of Spider-Girl #95 during a flashback to events which took place directly following Tales of Suspense #39 as shown in Iron Man #144 which depicts Stark’s first meeting with James ‘Rhodey’ Rhodes.


 





We can also see  a replica of the golden version of the Model 1 in Avengers Next #5 when Kevin Masterson pulls it out of the Avengers Headquarters armory and uses it as a brief distraction against Ulik and Sylene.

 


Unless I’m mistaken, that’s all the appearances of the original tin can suit in the MC2. Next time, we’ll move on to another Stark designed Iron Man Armor, one with a little hot-rod red thrown in…

 

Until I’m able to build one of these in a cave WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS, I remain

 

frogoat

Sunday, 9 October 2022

The Rhino in the MC2

Usually, I try and pick a topic or character related to a recent Marvel movie or television show and detail their MC2 counterpart for maximum exposure. But, since I’ve had some setbacks recently and because I’ve been wanting to cover this character for a good while now, I decided what the heck? Why not just throw this one out before I lose all the data on my laptop and must start from scratch again?! So, today’s post is about Aleksei Mikhailovich Sytsevich aka The Rhino in the MC2. Enjoy!



 

Aleksei Sytsevich made his debut as The Rhino in the pages of Amazing Spider-Man #41 by Stan Lee and John Romita Sr in 1966. There he is seen rampaging all the way to New York on his way to capture John Jameson before being defeated by Spider-Man and placed in a state corrections hospital. Escaping shortly afterwards, Rhino attempts to complete his original mission but is again defeated after Spider-Man uses a special acid webbing created by Curt Connors (aka The Lizard) to dissolve the Rhino’s armour (Amazing Spider-Man #42-43).



 





It is also in Amazing Spider-Man #43 that we get glimpses of Rhino’s origin where we learn he was ‘a hired hood—a muscle man’ working for professional spies. He was considered so unintelligent he would not betray his employers even after they subjected him to months of experiments and treatments, culminating in gifting him enhanced strength. Finally, he was covered in a molecular adhesive protective ‘second skin’ and truly became the Rhino. However, not only had Rhino received increased strength, but also increased intelligence…at least enough to realize he did not need to follow his employers’ orders anymore and went solo.

 





It is interesting to note that the Rhino has had his suit destroyed on various occasions, the first being his above-mentioned encounter with Spider-Man, but despite this through the first few decades of his existence he inevitably found his way into a new and sometimes improved second skin thanks to various super-geniuses. All this would come to an end when Rhino grew tired of being trapped in his latest suit after it had once again become permanently bonded to him following a shuttle explosion (apparently off-panel in Incredible Hulk #159 implied in Thing #24 and confirmed in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Deluxe Edition #10).

 







This became the Rhino’s motivation going forward, driving him to find a cure for his condition as noted above in the Thing #24. Rhino betrays his Sinister Syndicate team mates for a deal with the Kingpin after the doctor attempting to cure him was killed by the team. Despite the Kingpin’s promise of a cure, he instead planned to retain the Rhino as muscle. When Rhino kidnapped one of the scientists in the Kingpin’s employ, he was finally freed from his suit. Unfortunately, the Kingpin threatened the scientist’s family and Rhino reached out to Justin Hammer for a new and improved Rhino suit once more, one he could once again remove this time (Deadly Foes of Spider-Man #1-4).

 







Despite this, by the time of Sensational Spider-Man #31 occurs, Rhino is once again apparently trapped within his suit. This is evident from his rampage through New York in a desperate attempt to feel something as he was unable to feel through his suit. Spider-Man is able to comply with the Rhino’s desire by electrocuting him, defeating him in the process and ending his rampage. I specifically mention this story as it takes place right before the MC2’s divergence from the Main Marvel Universe and somewhat nicely leads us to the Rhino’s one and only appearance in the MC2.

 



In the pages of Amazing Spider-Man Family #3, Peter, Mary Jane and Aunt Anna bring a sick baby May Parker to a hospital emergency room. There they encounter Aleksei Sytsevich who is seeking medical attention for his aunt Yulya Sytsevich. Peter mentions hearing that Aleksei had finally managed to surgically remove his Rhino suit. Aleksei struggles with the registration process and becomes agitated until Mary Jane offers to help with the paperwork, which his aunt accepts. Aleksei recognizes Peter as the Daily Bugle photographer and invites him to get a coffee. Aleksei mentions his was once hired to threaten Peter, a direct reference to Spectacular Spider-Man #190.












Meanwhile, Anna and Mary Jane help fill out the forms for Yulya who tells them that Aleksei sacrificed a lot to bring his family over from Russia, which is most likely a reference to Amazing Spider-Man Annual #28 where we see he has only managed to bring over his mother and niece Alexia, with intentions of bringing the rest of his family to the United States once he has more money. Aleksei and Peter discuss the expenses of paying for medical treatment and they bond over their common lack of money, both working job to job. Aleksei mentions some of the ‘bad bosses’ he’s worked for including the Beetle, the Leader and Doctor Octopus, the last of which may be a reference to Webspinners: Tales of Spider-Man #17-#18 by MC2 alumni Tom Defalco and Ron Frenz.

 





Peter explains Spider-Man does what he does because of the loss of a family member and Aleksei relates to this, mentioning how his aunt Yulya lost her husband Borya who was ‘taken away in the night and never seen again’. Aleksei explains that he joined Russian gangsters to protect his family, using the money he was paid to support them, and how this eventually led to him being turned into the Rhino and eventually earned enough to migrate his family to America. Though Peter believes Spider-Man and Rhino are destined to meet again as enemies, Peter and Aleksei found common ground and part ways on good terms.


 


There is a treasure trove to unpack and explore with the Rhino, including the fact he is not even given a real name until the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe: Hulk 2004 was published nearly 4 decades after the character’s debut. Prior to that, he used the alias Alex O’Hirn (the surname being an anagram) while posing as a baseball player in Incredible Hulk #435, a pseudonym some other adaptions would use, most notably in the Ultimate Spider-Man comics and the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon. The use of Rhino’s real name in this MC2 tale is yet another example of later details, characters and story elements being integrated into the MC2 from the Main Marvel Universe after the point of divergence.

 





I am also considering a family tree post to cover Aleksei’s surprising number of relatives, let me know if you’d be interested in seeing that. This post proved rather more difficult to research than I first thought but I thoroughly enjoyed the process. It is good to know some of Spider-Man’s foes had a happy ending, even if the United States’ healthcare system could do with an overhaul. Just saying.

 

Until I talk about the Mecha-Rhino, I remain

 

frogoat