Raimi-Verse References in the MC2

 

Following on from the recent Spider-Man: No Way Home villain posts, for no specific reason today’s post will be about the various Sam Raimi Spider-Man movie trilogy references, easter eggs and connections in the MC2, including those I consider too coincidental not to mention. For short, here’s Raimi-Verse References in the MC2.

 

First up, here’s one I’ve always thought was ahead of it’s time and almost certainly unintentional. In Spider-Girl #5 we first meet the MC2’s Venom symbiote. When the symbiote bonds to it’s former original host Peter Parker we get a variation on both the Spider-Man and Venom’s costumes combined dubbed ‘Spider-Venom’. Now, to me this looks way too similar to Spider-Man 3’s Venom costume design for it *not* to be an inspiration. Of course, it’s more than likely a huge coincidence but it’s amusing that this comic was published in 1999, a whole seven years before the film was released. On an unrelated note, as far as I’m aware this may also be the first example of the symbiote replacing a host’s lost limb using it’s own bio-mass over a decade before ‘Agent Venom’ was a concept.

 

When a mysterious new Spider-Man first showed up at the Daily Bugle in Spider-Girl #32, he was rocking a new costume design which included classic eye-pieces and a red and black colour scheme. Additionally, the stylized spider emblem on both the front and back of the costume bore a very familiar design. While the front is a larger, modified version of Peter Parker’s own, the back with the red colour is remarkable for it’s strikingly similarity to the one first seen on screen a year later in the first Spider-Man movie.

 

Another fun detail -again more than likely unintentional- is the fact that this new Spider-Man (actually Gerry Drew, the son of the original Spider-Woman) is capable of producing organic webbing much like the Raimi-Verse’s version of Peter Parker (Spider-Girl #37). Meanwhile Peter’s ability to produce organic webbing wouldn’t be introduced in the Main Marvel Universe until 2004’s Spectacular Spider-Man (Vol. 2) #20 in what was most likely an attempt at synergy between the comics and films.

 

This next one is probably my personal favourite. While attending an engagement party for Normie Osborn and Brenda Drago, Mary Jane points out to Peter a fellow partygoer’s uncanny resemblance to someone he should know all too well. Needless to say, Peter doesn’t see the resemblance and instead thinks he looks like Tobey Maguire (Spider-Girl #82). Of course, the man MJ points out is Reilly Tyne aka Darkdevil aka the son of Ben Reilly aka the clone brother of Peter Parker himself which makes this joke all the more amusing.

 

Okay, this one was so obvious I really have no idea how I nearly missed it when compiling this post! After hanging up her webs as Spider-Girl months prior, May ‘Mayday’ Parker suddenly finds herself in need of make-shift disguise. Thus, the short-lived adventures of the Red Hoodie Girl begin (Spider-Girl #1-#2, Avengers Next #1). Obviously, this look will seem very familiar to anyone who’s watched the original Spider-Man movie as it’s Peter’s ‘Human Spider’ wrestling costume.  

Calling back to the concept of producing organic webs, Peter’s second child, Benjy is shown to have developed just that ability, first in Amazing Spider-Girl #9 and later in Amazing Spider-Girl #30 when the infant manages to save himself and his mother from a deadly fall at the hands of a returned Norman Osborn. This is nicely foreshadowed in a scene where Peter and Mayday discuss organic webbing while producing a fresh batch of web-fluid together in Amazing Spider-Girl #20).

 

There’s also a nice little Raimi-Verse Spider-Man costume reference on the cover of Amazing Spider-Girl #11 featuring Peter Parker strung-up by Carnage’s tendrils, his Spider-Man costume adorned with the spider-design of his film counterpart.

 

That’s all I have for now, if you think I’ve forgotten or overlooked a reference to Sam Raimi trilogy, let me know! I thought this would be a nice little bit of fun to close things out for now.

 

Until I learn they’ve brought Tobey’s Spider-Man back… with a daughter in tow, I remain

 

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Norman Osborn in the MC2

With Spider-Man: No Way Home on everyone’s mind, I figured now is a great time to cover some of the MC2 counterparts of the villains confirmed to appear in the film. For what I believe is the last entry in this series, we are taking a look at Norman Osborn aka The Green Goblin in the MC2. This is gonna be a big one.

 

Norman Osborn first appeared in Amazing Spider-Man #14 and made his MC2 debut in the pages of Spider-Girl’s own first appearance in What If #105 via a flashback to his final battle with Spider-Man. Despite being dead, Norman’s legacy of evil looms large over much of the MC2, extending from his family, his Goblin Cult through to his posthumous machinations.

 

Let’s start with some of the stuff I’ve covered before. Alison Mongrain is hired by Norman Osborn to carry out part of his plan to kidnap the newborn child of Peter and Mary Jane. Disguised as a member of the hospital staff, Alison swapped out baby May with a recent stillborn baby, leaving Mary Jane to believe her baby had died at birth. Shortly afterwards, Alison met with Norman Osborn who paid Alison a ‘sizeable bonus’ to take an ‘expensive vacation’ through Europe with the newborn May (Spider-Girl #48, Amazing Spider-Girl #25).

 

Immediately afterwards chronologically is a flashback to the conclusion of the Clone Saga, specifically Peter Parker: Spider-Man #75 where we see Ben Reilly impaled by Norman’s Goblin Glider (Spider-Girl #44).

 

The Brotherhood of Scriers arrive to collect the infant May for Norman Osborn. Alison asks if she can accompany them as she has grown attached to the child, but the Scriers remind her not to question Mr. Osborn. The Scriers leave Mongrain with Norman’s compliments and her ‘final payment’ which turns out to be counterfeit bills and knockout gas. Kaine, being familiar with Osborn and the Scriers methods, rescued Mongrain just as the yacht exploded, hoping to learn what role she had played for Norman Osborn. Upon learning that Alison had kidnapped May and helped convince Peter and Mary Jane she was dead, Kaine leaves Mongrain floundering in the bay with no care whether she lived or died (Spider-Girl #49).

 

Meanwhile, terrible months have passed by for Peter and Mary Jane until Mary Jane receives a phone call from the man called Kaine. Having located Mongrain’s yacht, Kaine begins by telling Mary Jane ‘Your baby’s alive!’ and then goes on to provide a longer explanation, but insists that Mary Jane not tell Peter until the child is safe in her arms. Mary Jane hated keeping secrets from Peter but did not wish for Peter to endanger their baby’s life by confronting Norman Osborn (Spider-Girl #48).

 

Next up we have a flashback to the events of ‘Goblin at the Gate’ story published in Spectacular Spider-Man #259-#261, wherein Norman came into conflict with Roderick Kingsley aka The Hobgoblin. This actually provides some nice context clues regarding what parts of the late-90’s Spider-Man comics we can confirm as having occurred in the History of the MC2, but my placement of this event is by no means definitive.

 

Shortly after this, we get a glimpse of a Scrier handing over baby May to Norman Osborn. Norman cloned the baby and ‘genetically tinkered’ with both to ensure they would eventually manifest spider-powers. Later, Norman placed one of the babies (May) into the care of his good friend Philippe DeJunae. Retaining the other baby (later known as April) himself, Norman ‘added a few more enhancements’ including using cells from Venom aka Eddie Brock’s alien symbiote which transformed the other infant into a unique hybrid. Also around this time, Norman also distilled all his thoughts, dreams and desires, his entire essence into his ‘brain-enhancer’ as part of his unfinished plan to make Peter his successor (Amazing Spider-Girl #29).

 

 Kaine’s months-long mission across the globe brings him into conflict with the Brotherhood of Scriers. After defeating the group of Scriers, Kaine makes short work of their leader before taking possession of baby May from Monsieur Philippe DeJunae. Unbeknownst to Kaine, Norman had orchestrated the encounter to ensure Kaine would return May to her parents and allow him to continue his Project: Changeling experiments with the second baby, which Osborn intended to put into effect within a year or two if his scheme proceeded as planned (Amazing Spider-Girl #25).

 

Kaine returns May to Mary Jane and assures her there are tests she can perform to confirm she’s not being tricked. Kaine states he is doing this as part of the debt he owes to Ben Reilly, indicating his intention to punish the man responsible: Norman Osborn. Kaine’s revenge ultimately does not come to pass (Spider-Girl #48-#49).

 

Norman seemingly splits his time between New York and Europe throughout all this, at least initially, as evidenced by his work on Project: Changeling in the Swiss Alps and his conflict with the Hobgoblin in New York, to name a few examples. Additionally, after their baby daughter May is returned, Peter and Mary Jane make no mention of Norman and his machinations in the Mr. and Mrs. Spider-Man stories (Amazing Spider-Man #1-#4). This may indicate that Osborn had left New York by this point, giving the Parkers a time of relative peace while he put his plans into action. This in turn perhaps better explains Norman’s movements: He was in New York until he had arranged for Kaine to retrieve May and moved to Europe while focused on Project: Changeling.

It’s unclear exactly how much time passes but at some point, Osborn returns to New York and recruits Mattie Franklin, Greg Herd, Cassandra Webb (aka Madame Web) and Morris Maxwell as willingly participants in the Gathering of Five ritual. As Spider-Man, Peter interrupts Norman Osborn’s Gathering of Five ritual and the pair have their final battle in which Peter loses his leg and Norman loses his life when the latter detonates a webbed pumpkin bomb in his hand. Deciding he has more important responsibilities as a father, Peter retires as Spider-Man (What If #105, Spider-Girl #7, Spider-Girl #49).

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While this would usually be the end for anyone else, Norman’s brain-waves survived within his ‘brain-enhancer’ device until Rene DeSantos dispatched Fury, the Goblin Queen to capture Peter Parker. Norman Osborn’s brain-waves were transferred into Peter’s body and the original Green Goblin was reborn once more. Norman revealed his ultimate goal when he used the hybrid symbiote-clone of May to combine with himself, becoming the ‘Goblin God’. Unfortunately for him, Spider-Girl also joined in this merging and in a combined effort, managed to defeat and drive Osborn from Peter’s body, seemingly ending his legacy for good (Amazing Spider-Girl #27-#30).

 

While this post only details the direct appearances of Norman Osborn in the MC2, there is still much left to discuss regarding his influence upon others. But that can wait for another day and another post. For now, let us leave Norman to his fate. If you feel I’ve forgotten anything or perhaps disagree with my placement of events, please reach out and let me know!

Until I find time to get to the cinema to see the Green Goblin’s theatrical return, I remain

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Electro in the MC2

 

With Spider-Man: No Way Home on everyone’s mind, I figured now is a great time to cover some of the MC2 counterparts of the villains confirmed to appear in the film. For the third entry in this little series, we are taking a look at Maxwell ‘Max’ Dillon aka Electro in the MC2.

 

Maxwell ‘Max’ Dillon first appeared in Amazing Spider-Man #9 but makes his MC2 debut in the pages of Spider-Girl #81 where he once again dons his classic Electro costume for an expected reason. For those who might be interested, I’ve previously detailed the Dillon Family Tree, which can be found here.

 

But first, an unnamed female villain clad in an Electro-inspired costume makes an appearance in Spider-Girl #51. The aforementioned Electro-styled villainess who briefly appears goes unnamed, though Spider-Girl does point out the apparent connections to Electro and jokingly refers to her opponent as 'Electra', quipping that it's already taken.

 

We wouldn't learn anymore about this character until she was re-visited in Spider-Girl #81 in what has to be one of the best stand-alone issues of the series. Showing up at the Avengers front door and asking to speak to Spider-Man, Dillon eventually meets with the original webhead face to face and explains the situation.

 

We learn that years ago Max fell in love with a woman named Marilyn, though the two never married. They had a daughter together named Allison Dillon who was born with similar electrical powers. Sadly, Max and Allison were never able to make physical contact due to their 'electrical auras' causing one another extreme pain. Marilyn told Max to stay out of Allison's life and he obliged, later winding up in prison. While there, Marilyn died, leaving Allison to be shuffled between foster homes, eventually donning a costume and starting a life of crime like her father before her. Which is why, having only recently learning of Allison's situation, and apparently having served his time, Max reaches out to the Avengers to obtain help from his old enemy Spider-Man.

 With the assistance of the Avengers, Spider-Man and Spider-Girl, father and daughter are reunited after Max shows Allison he wouldn’t give up on her nor himself. The pair fight through the pain of their electrical auras, finally overcoming the barrier between them, with Max promising they will go through whatever happens next together.

 

It’s not known what happens for the two after this, though Peter does speculate that given Allison is a minor, she’ll either get a light sentence or be paroled into Max’s custody. Either way, Max Dillon has proven he’s grown and is perhaps ready for parenthood.

 

Until I figure out how to travel along power lines using electrical fields, I remain

 

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