Doctor Octopus in the MC2

 

With Spider-Man: No Way Home on everyone’s mind, I figured now is a great time to cover some of the MC2 counterparts of the villains confirmed to appear in the film. Today, we are taking a look at Dr Otto Octavius aka Doc Ock aka Doctor Octopus in the MC2.

 

Doctor Octopus first appeared in Amazing Spider-Man #3 but makes his MC2 debut behind the scenes in The Buzz #1. Well, technically he’s only alluded to in the first issue and really makes his debut in The Buzz #2 albeit partially obscured, with his identity finally revealed in The Buzz #3. Let me break it down.

 

In The Buzz #1 we learn from J Jonah Jameson that Spider-Man vanished right before Jameson needed him most, though we don’t get any further details. Jonah’s wife Marla, Dr Sonja Jade and Richie Robertson were key members working on Project: Human Fly, a superpowered suit designed to empower Buzz Bannon and intended to be keyed to his specific brainwaves. However, when Dr Jade reveals her true self and her intention to take the suit, Bannon is shot and dies before his encephalograms can be linked to the Human Fly suit, leaving JJ Jameson to be keyed with the suit and foil its theft, though not before Dr Jade makes off with the project's data and erases all remaining records. Evidently, Dr Jade is being well-paid by Doc Ock and the suits of the henchmen accompanying her distinctly resemble those seen way back in the classic Master Planner story from Amazing Spider-Man #31-33.

 

Doctor Octopus makes his partially obscured first MC2 appearance in The Buzz #2, receiving a report from Dr Jade regarding the henchmen’s failure to obtain the Fly suit, which he attributes to the decrease in quality since the Taskmaster retired. Otto provides Jade with a device that would allow him to remotely take control of the Fly suit. Teaming up with Richie Robertson to maintain the suit,  JJ (dubbing himself The Buzz) sought out Dr Jade with little success for several weeks until confronted by her in a prototype of the Human Fly suit. With the device attached, the unseen Octavius downloads himself into the suit’s operating system and attempts to remotely pilot The Buzz back to his hidden base only to be interrupted by Spider-Girl.

 

Otto forces The Buzz to target Marla Jameson, resulting in JJ’s grandfather J Jonah Jameson being taken hostage. In order to force Doc Ock to leave the suit, Richie hits the kill switch and leaves The Buzz plummeting to earth. With the threat of the suit being destroyed and with Jonah being rescued by Spider-Girl, Doctor Octopus abandons control and Richie wipes him from the suit’s system, allowing The Buzz to pull out of the drop just in time (The Buzz #2).

 

JJ learns from his grandmother Marla the reason why Jonah blames himself for two murders following Buzz Bannon’s death. Marla explains that shortly after the original Spider-Man disappeared in battle with the Green Goblin, an old enemy attacked the Daily Bugle and murdered Jonah’s closest friend, Joe Robertson, Richie’s grandfather. It’s this inciting incident that led to the idea for Project: Human Fly (The Buzz #3). 

Using the control module device, Richie traces Dr Jade and her boss to their base and The Buzz and Spider-Girl follow this lead deep below the East River. The pair encounter Jade and Doctor Octopus is finally revealed as the mastermind who secretly aided in the development of the Human Fly suit, specifically the encephalo-gate which ties brain waves into the suit’s operating system (The Buzz #3). 

Otto also reveals he is dying from cancer and intended to use this method to transfer his consciousness. Unveiling his prototype Octopod, Otto uses the machine to battle The Buzz, but is left in a coma following an electrical backlash when the underwater base beings to flood. Confronted with the man who killed his grandfather, Richie insists The Buzz brings him in to face justice, but when given the choice between proving Dr Jade's involvement and saving Doc Ock, he was more than happy for The Buzz to leave Ock to die. Conflicted, The Buzz instead helps save Octavius and Dr Jade escapes (The Buzz #3).

 

It seems Doctor Otto Octavius never regains consciousness, and by the time Dr Jade re-emerges her partner Carolyn Trainer has assumed the mantle as the new Doctor Octopus in honour of her ‘recently deceased mentor’ (Spider-Girl #69). At least the name is in good hands.

 

Thus ends the life of Otto Octavius, at least in the MC2. Unless, of course, he managed to transfer his consciousness like he had planned and is still out there somewhere trapped inside his Octopod…

 

Until I stop the rampant rumour-mongering about versions of Doctor Octopus somehow surviving beneath the water, I remain

 

frogoat

 

Thena: Who's Your Mama?! (Part 2)

 

A while ago, I took a stab at figuring out just who the Asgardian goddess Thena’s mother could be in the MC2. Well, now is probably the best time to dust off the topic and discuss another option, given that the latest Marvel Cinematic Universe movie Eternals is in cinemas right now. Why? Let’s jump straight in and find out!

 

While we never saw any of the Eternals in the MC2, we nearly saw prominent member Thena in a perhaps less than unexpected place. If you’ve read the title, you may already know where this is going. Here are some extracts from Comic Shenanigans Episode 744: Interview with Ron Frenz on A-Next:

 

‘I was not lucky enough to be a part of the later A-Next mini-series and stuff. That was always something that I was all for, the roster changing just like it did in the original Avengers, you know. That there would be new characters introduced and all this kind of stuff. I played a much smaller role behind the scenes. I had originally conceived of a daughter for Thor in some of my sketches. So, when she finally did show up, Ron Lim was working off of those sketches. He made adaptations of his own which is only right since he was the one handling the character. Originally the name I had for her was Thera, T-H-E-R-A, which I thought was a nice kind of sort of Thor-sounding-but-not. Tom ended up going with Thena and I don’t know if at the time he realized that was already the name of a character in the Eternals. But in my head now I have this story we could tell at some point, if anybody cared, where Thor actually named his daughter after the leader of the Eternals upon the signing of some peace treaty or something like that.’

 

This idea could have made for a fun story and if it was canon, would have worked as a nice detail to add to the lore of the MC2. But Mr Frenz goes on to further add the following even more intriguing notion:

 

‘So when Tom did that, my brain immediately went to ‘now, why would he name his daughter after the leader of the Eternals?’ and there’s a story there. If you really want to be dirty about it, maybe Sif wasn’t her mother, I don’t know. Maybe Thena is her mother, I don’t know. I don’t know exactly how much we were committed to because as I said I wasn’t involved directly in Last Hero Standing or Last Planet Standing or any of those mini-series so I don’t remember what has exactly been established or not.’

 

So Thena, the Asgardian goddess and child of Thor, was nearly or could potentially be the daughter of Thena of the race of Eternals. I would love to see these story ideas explored in someway in the future, one way or the other.

 

Until I find more time to write these little tie-in posts, I remain

 

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History of the MC2: Kaine

 

I’m working on making a complete timeline of events covering the History of the MC2, spanning the nebulous 15 year stretch of time after the Main Marvel Universe (or Universe-616) split off and became the MC2 (or Universe-982) and before the next-generation of heroes began to debut starting with J2 #1, A-Next #1 and What If #105. For this instalment, I’d like to take a look at the world-worn, well-travelled man called Kaine.

 

A reference to Kaine’s activities prior to his appearances during the infamous Clone Saga appears in Spider-Girl #44 when Peter provides Mayday with a heavily edited and censored version of some of the significant events. Notably, this issue also features flashbacks to Ben Reilly with Peter and a heavily pregnant Mary Jane.

 

Near as I can tell, Kaine’s next earliest appearance chronologically was depicted in Spider-Girl #49 where he notes that he first met Alison Mongrain ‘over a decade’ prior accidentally while investigating Norman Osborn who had murdered Ben Reilly, who Kaine considered a brother. During this investigation Kaine learned that Osborn was using the Scriers to secretly funnel money to Mongrain. Kaine encountered Mongrain immediately after the visit from the Scriers where they took back the infant May Parker and left the woman unconscious with explosives set to kill her. Saving her life, Kaine learned from Alison the plot to fake May’s death and kidnap the child and disgusted, left Mongrain floundering in the bay.  This gives us a clear picture of Kaine’s motive for seeking out Osborn and how he learned of what had happened to Peter and Mary Jane’s baby.

 

Seemingly immediately after reaching the shore, Kaine phoned Mary Jane to tell her ‘Your baby’s alive’ followed by an explanation including that Norman Osborn’s was responsible. Not wanting the child harmed as a result of a confrontation, Kaine asked Mary Jane not to tell Peter until she was safe in his arms (Spider-Girl #48).

 

Next, we briefly see Kaine’s encounter with the Scrier’s in Spider-Girl #49 in a single panel flashback. This is presumably the very same encounter in the south of France at La Maison DeJunae from ‘a little over sixteen years ago’ seen in more detail in Amazing Spider-Girl #25, where we see Kaine has tracked down the Brotherhood of Scriers. After making short work of them, he rescues baby May from Philippe DeJunae, unknowingly being manipulated by Norman Osborn who had already cloned the infant and held one of them in a lab at Castle Osborn in the Swiss Alps.

 

 

We see Kaine return May to Mary Jane and assure her she there are tests she can perform to confirm she’s not being tricked. Kaine states he is doing this as part of the debt he owes to Ben Reilly, indicating his intention to punish the man responsible: Norman Osborn. Kaine’s revenge ultimately does not come to pass as Osborn dies literally by his own hand when his pumpkin bomb explodes during his final battle with Spider-Man (Spider-Girl #48-#49).

At some unknown point or at various points in his past, Kaine was chased by S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents across five continents, learning to recognize their moves as a result. (Amazing Spider-Girl #10) I’m placing this here purely because it’s around the only confirmed time we known he crossed into other countries and continents. It’s by no means a definitive placement, merely representative.

 

At some point ‘years earlier’ than the flashbacks seen in Darkdevil #2, Kaine turned to the arcane to prevent his clone degeneration, mastering skills which summoned the living spirit of vengeance, Zarathos. In exchange for halting his degeneration, Kaine served as the demon’s servant for a time.

 

After years of constant agony, Kaine’s nerve endings simply stopped functioning, apparently meaning he no longer felt anything (Spider-Girl #14). This and his prior degeneration may be connected to Kaine’s use of a metallic body suit (first seen chronologically in flashbacks from Darkdevil #1)

 

Kaine acted as a ‘Guardian Angel’ to the young son of Ben Reilly, watching over him as he grew up. When the boy began to suffer from the fatal clone degeneration he must have inherited from his father, Kaine took the boy to his hidden lab and placed him in suspended animation within a ‘Resuscitation Tube’ for months, visiting often during this time and telling him of his father and his true family history (Darkdevil #1).

 

*Ben Reilly’s son, known as Reilly Tyne, is said to be ‘barely thirteen’ when he first formally meets Kaine. For various reasons, this does not seem to fit with the established timeline. At some point I intent to dedicate an entire post to the topic, but for now let’s focus on Kaine*

 

Around this time Kaine worked as an enforcer for Wilson Fisk, the Kingpin of Crime when the District Attorney had collected enough evidence to finally put Fisk away for life. Confronting him, Daredevil found himself in battle with Kaine. With nothing to lose, Fisk ordered his men to open fire on Daredevil despite Kaine being in their way. In a heroic final act, Daredevil died shielding Kaine from a barrage of bullets with his own body, saying that even a monster like Kaine deserved better. Moved by the hero’s sacrifice for him, Kaine took the body of the Man Without Fear to his laboratory where he tried in vain to reanimate his corpse.

 

 Realizing that science could not help him, Kaine turned to sorcery, again summoning Zarathos and this time begged him to revive the fallen hero in exchange for his own life and soul. Uninterested, Zarathos ignored Kaine’s protests and instead took possession of the boy still in suspended animation, physically ageing him into an adult and giving him a demonic appearance. Fortunately, the spirit of deceased Daredevil stood against Zarathos and eventually drove the demon from the boy’s body (Darkdevil #2).

 

With Zarathos banished, the boy was left seemingly stuck in a demonic adult body and blamed Kaine, who ‘skulked away’. Fortunately, the boy had also been imbued with the spirit of Matt Murdock, and soon mastered his new demonic abilities including appearing as a mortal man in his twenties, took a job at Nelson’s law firm as an intern under the name Reilly Tyne and became the heroic vigilante known as Darkdevil, though still harbouring resentment toward Kaine (Darkdevil #3).

 

Kaine returns to New York from parts unknown ‘after all these years’ to ‘check up on a family matter’ so it appears he has not set foot in the city for some time prior to Spider-Girl #12 or at least others are not aware of him doing so.

 

Based on these comments throughout various MC2 titles, we can piece together the order of events prior to Kaine’s return in the MC2’s present day. Here is what we have:

 

·         Kaine, seeking vengeance on Osborn, saves Alison only to leave her for dead upon learning her part in May’s kidnapping

 

·         Kaine contacts Mary Jane and tells her May is alive but insists she not tell Peter until May is safely returned to her parents

 

·         Placing May in the care of Philippe DeJunae, protected by hired members of the Scriers, Kaine rescues May from DeJunae, unaware events have been orchestrated by Osborn

 

·         Kaine reunites May with her mother Mary Jane, determined to find Osborn

 

·         Kaine mastered arcane skills in order to summon the spirit of vengeance Zarathos, working as the demon’s servant for a time in exchange for staving off his clone degeneration

 

·         Many years later, the son of Ben Reilly and Elizabeth Tyne is found near-death by Kaine, who places him in a Resuscitation Tube to stave off his clone degeneration

 

·         Kaine works as an enforcer for the Kingpin

 

·         When the District Attorney has collected enough evidence to send Wilson Fisk to jail for life, Daredevil is killed saving Kaine from Fisk's gunmen

 

·         Kaine attempts to revive Daredevil using science but fails, and so resorts again to the arcane

 

·         Kaine summons Zarathos and pleads with the demon to restore Daredevil to life in exchange for his own

 

·         Zarathos instead possesses and alters the body of Reilly and Tyne's son

 

·         Daredevil's spirit battles Zarathos for the boy's soul and body, eventually driving the demon out

 

·         The boy eventually masters his demonic abilities and studies law, gaining a job at Foggy Nelson's law firm under the name Reilly Tyne while also operating as the masked hero Darkdevil in Murdock's honour

 

 

I believe that’s all we have regarding the History of the MC2’s Kaine, but it’s always possible I’ve missed a detail somewhere along the line. If you find something I haven’t noted, please let me know in the comments.

 

Until I play a pivotal role in the lives of various major MC2 characters for years to come, I remain

 

frogoat