Saturday, 27 December 2025

Is Devil Dinosaur in the MC2?

 

Here’s a fun idea I’ve been chewing over for a while now: What characters could exist in the MC2, but where never seen, referenced or perhaps simply weren’t introduced into Marvel Comics until afterwards? I’ve previously produced a post pondering this proposal when I looked at one of the members of the Guardians of the Galaxy to see if Groot could potentially exist in the MC2. For today, I wanted to take a bite out of another character I’m fond of, to see if Devil Dinosaur could exist in the MC2?




First, we must consider some rules, ironic though it may seem for a thought experiment such as this. Usually the MC2’s point of divergence, ‘cut off point’ or ‘branching point,’ is comics published after 1998, when the MC2 imprint began publication. There have been exceptions to this, with some characters who were created after this point appearing in the MC2, such as Anya Corazón aka Araña. With regards to Devil Dinosaur, we have a very different issue to consider.

 



Created by the king of comics himself, Jack Kirby, Devil first appeared in Devil Dinosaur #1 from 1978. Devil is a mutant tyrannosaurus-like theropod dinosaur of the species known as ‘Devil-Beasts’ (Fallen Angels #4). While Mr Kirby’s intent was for Devil and his ‘Small-Folk’ hominid companion Moon Boy to hail from the distant past of the Main Marvel Universe or Earth-616, it’s now firmly established that they originate from an alternate Earth known as ‘Dinosaur World’, which is officially and in-universe designated as Earth-78411 (The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (vol. 1) #3, The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Deluxe Edition #7, The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Update ’89 #2, The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Master Edition #8,Marvel Monsters: From the Files of Ulysses Bloodstone (and the Monster Hunters) and so on). With all that information as support, it’s safe to say Devil Dinosaur is not native to the 616 Universe. So, does that rule him out of the MC2 Universe also?

 



Fortunately, Devil has traversed the multiverse on multiple occasions, in addition to interacting with visitors to his world from the 616 including Godzilla via Doctor Doom’s Time Platform (Godzilla #21-#22). Devil and Moon Boy have also encountered various others including a Skrull (Devil Dinosaur Spring Fling #1),Lockheed (and nearly Shadowcat) of Excalibur (Marvel Comics Present #174), Ghost Rider and Howard the Duck (Ghost Rider (vol. 3) #81-#83), Wolverine, Namor the Sub-Mariner and Ka-Zar (Wolverine: Global Jeopardy #1) and the Fallen Angels group which included members of the New Mutants team (Fallen Angels #4-#8).

 





One significant story came in the pages of Amazing Spider-Man Annual ’98 (aka ‘Annual #31’) written by none other than Spider-Girl co-creator Tom Defalco. This story saw the duo of Moon Boy and Devil Dinosaur stranded once again on Earth-616 and this time under the hypnotic influence of the Ringmaster of Crime. After Spider-Man liberated the pair, he suggested their relocation to the Savage Land where they were settled soon after.

 



Not only is this story written by MC2 alumni Tom Defalco, but it was also published in 1998 making it a likely inclusion into our hypothetical pre-MC2-publication cut off point. So, could Devil Dinosaur reside in the MC2? Yes, it is possible Devil and Moon Boy remain secluded in the remote Savage Land of Antarctica. Considering no published MC2 stories have visited the Savage Land, I’d like to think Devil and his friend are still out there…

 

Until we get Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur Season 3, I remain

 

frogoat

Tuesday, 23 December 2025

On the Naughty List: Slaybelle, the No-Hit Wonder

 

Sleigh bells ring, are you listening? In the lane, snow is glistening

A beautiful sight, we're happy tonight
Walking in a winter wonderland

-Winter Wonderland

 

 

It’s nearly that time again, merry people! With the holiday season upon us and with me recently having trawled back through my old notes on unused concepts in the MC2, I’ve got a gift for one and all: Slaybelle, the villainess who (almost) stole Christmas.

 


I enjoy the unused concepts conceived by the creative teams of the MC2, particularly Spider-Girl co-creator Ron Frenz, who has kindly shared a plethora of unpublished pitches through the years. Among these, we have this tantalizing titbit from Ron’s own facebook post:

 

“NOPE.

So The Legendary Tom DeFalco and I were working on an issue of Spider-Girl that would be on sale around Christmastime and needed a villain to give Mayday a warm-up battle at the beginning of the issue, you know, an opening bank robbery kinda thing. We put our heads together and came up with THIS young lady,

SLAYBELLE (Get it?)

Tom and I: Pretty cool, huh?

Editor: Nope.

Oh well.”

 

For those who don’t get it, Slaybelle is a punny bit of wordplay on ‘sleigh bell,’ which is another term for a ‘jingle bell’ which were often found on sleds or sleighs and are closely associated with the folk story of Santa Claus and his flying sleigh. Slay, meaning to violently kill is a homophone of sleigh. Belle is a term for a beautiful woman. Honestly, I’m probably overexplaining this. But it’s a clever joke!

 

On the podcast Make Mine Mayday Episode 43, Ron mentioned the situation:

 

‘The only thing I remember an editor saying we couldn’t do was Slaybelle. A young woman in a Santa suit with a big gun and we were going to use her for an opening sequence, like a bank robbery or something like that. I forget whether it was Nicole or Molly or who it was, whoever was our editor at the time said ‘No’. And we went ‘why?’ and they said ‘No. Just no.’

 


As for what issue of Spider-Girl this Miss missed, Ron notes Slaybelle was conceived for an issue published after Spider-Girl #54, which was of course pencilled by MC2 alumni Pat Olliffe. I’ll let you theorize!



Until I can come up with something for next this time next year, I remain a very merry

 

frogoat

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sunday, 21 December 2025

The Unique X-Mansion of the MC2

Comic books have gifted us many iconic superhero headquarters, and I wanted to cover another one today. I don’t have enough free time to take a deep dive into a major location like the Avengers Headquarters or even something like the Fantastic Four’s Pier 4 but I figured because it’s nearly X-Mas, I’d take a look at the X-Mansion of the MC2. Consider it my gift to all of you!

 


The X-Men of the Main Marvel Universe famously and most often operate out of the ancestral home of Professor Charles Xavier in Westchester County, New York which first appeared in the pages of X-Men #1, before being identified as Xavier’s School for Gifted Youngsters in X-Men #2, both published in 1963. The full address of the X-Mansion (as it is affectionately known) was revealed in the pages of X-Men #99 (1976) and X-Men #123 (1979): 1407 Graymalkin Lane, Salem Center, Westchester County, New York. The school would be renamed the Xavier Institute for Higher Learning in X-Men (vol. 2) #38.

 




Usually, these posts involve an in-depth history of the major events relating to the topic, however, unless I’m very much mistaken, the MC2’s most prominent mutant team the X-People don’t operate out of the Xavier Mansion located on Graymalkin Lane. The X-Mansion we first glimpse in J2 #1 is in New Jersey, in fact. We get our first full appearance of the X-Mansion in J2 #2 when Zane Yama (J2) pays the X-People a visit following an invitation from the team’s leader Jubilee in A-Next #1.

 




Having no other mode of transportation, Zane takes a bus to Saddle River, New Jersey, noting that the X-People have a higher public profile than the X-Men before them, with the X-Mansion’s location even being marked on tourist maps. The estate is encompassed by a wrought iron fence and entry gate with a cobbled driveway leading to the expansive three-story high brick structure. The grounds feature an assortment of large trees, a low brick wall and an in-ground pool (J2 #2).

 

Although the interior of the X-Mansion is not frequently depicted, it contains a version of the iconic Danger Room training facility, complete with holovision projectors, VR modules and direct sensory input transmitters (J2 #7, #11) According to Jubilee, the X-Mansion also has sensors which detected an overlooked Sleeper Sentinel activating at the nearby Upper Saddle River High School (Wild Thing #3).


 



 It appears that the newer team of mutants, the uncanny X-People, are overseen by members of the original X-Men, including Cyclops, who makes his first few appearances in the MC2 during training exercises in the Danger Room (J2 #7, #11).

 



Zane noted that thanks to the efforts and sacrifices of the X-Men, anti-mutant sentiment had been on the downswing for the past few years (J2 #2). Additionally, Rina seems to imply that both the X-Men and X-People teams currently exist (J2 # 10). The continued existence of the X-Men team is confirmed by Mainframe in Spider-Girl #92, suggesting Jubilee’s team is comprised of younger members from the student body in much the same way the New Mutants and Generation X functioned previously.

 




Wolverine refers to ‘the grounds at the old X-Mansion in Salem Center’ in Wild Thing #4 but we don’t learn the current status of the original School for Gifted Youngsters. Speaking of Wolverine, it seems likely that Logan and Elektra relocated to New Jersey to be closer to the X-Mansion, given their daughter Rina begins attending the nearby Upper Saddle River High School shortly after she successfully passes their trial and is offered probationary membership, which she characteristically declines (J2 #11, Wild Thing #1-#5)

 


Speaking of Gifted Youngsters, when Nancy Lu (aka the novice X-People member Push) visits Sara Hingle’s family to invite her to the ‘Xavier Institute’, we learn the school offers an external program for students who wish to continue a mainstream education with tutors visiting them in-home free of charge provide they attend on-campus training once or twice a month in their ‘Safety Rooms,’ no doubt the more official, less deadly-sounding name for the Danger Room  (Amazing Spider-Girl #22).

 


The recruitment and monitoring of young mutants is evidently an ongoing responsibility for the Xavier Institute, with Nancy herself having been first approached by Jubilee three years prior when her mutant abilities first manifested (Spider-Girl #22, #67). A former member of the X-People, Bluestreak has a less favourable view of Jubilee’s team, having quit to train under Hawkeye, forming the Dream Team and becoming a member of the new Avengers (American Dream #1-#5, A-Next #3-#4).

 





The prevalence of anti-mutant sentiment has sadly seen a return in recent times, as is evident in Last Hero Standing #2 when Jubilee believes a wave of recent superhero disappearances are primarily targeting mutants. The rise of ostracization and attacks on young mutants such as Nancy Lu (Spider-Girl #61-#67) and anti-mutant groups such as Humanity First gaining traction while targeting the likes of Sara Hingle further support this (Amazing Spider-Girl #19-#24). This raises concerns for the students and staff of the publicly known New Jersey X-Mansion.

 






The X-People are one of the most tantalizing aspects of the MC2 Universe, as the team has been around since the first year of the MC2 imprint, but has never featured in their own title. I would absolutely love to see Marvel publish an X-People mini-series, at least. I can’t be the only one who wants to see the mutant side of the MC2 more deeply explored. Mysteries such as how the X-Men saved the world and helped convince the public at large (albeit temporarily) not to hate and fear mutants, why did they relocate to New Jersey, where are the majority of the X-Men? I could go on!

 

Until I discover if the Blackbird jet still comes out of the basketball court, I remain

 

frogoat